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Steve_Schmidt
Posted on: November 30th, 2015, 09:36:48 Quote Report to Moderator
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It's not the Goodwood Festival of Speed by any means, but it's fast becoming a 'must-do' event in this part of the country.
Here's a slightly edited version of an item I wrote about the event for our local car club:

GEELONG REVIVAL, Eastern Beach Sprints Sat 28th & Sun 29th Nov.
If you consider this event to be all about drag racing, then you have the wrong end of the stick. Consider it instead to be a sporting / classic car and bike show with noise and movement. The venue must be one of the most picturesque sites for an event of this nature anywhere in Australia. The drag strip is a sweeping curved section of Ritchie Boulevard which flanks Geelong's Eastern Beach entertainment precinct on one side and is overlooked by a sloping grassed spectator area on the other which is dotted with magnificent shade trees and huge TV screens covering the action. Each day, about 100 cars and 40 bikes take to the track, one at a time, to record their best quarter-mile time out of 4 runs. (Health and Safety concerns rule out the side by side competition us more mature competitors remember enjoying a couple of decades ago). Saturday's competition sees contemporary sports, production and rally cars competing, whilst on Sunday all the historic categories get to strut their stuff.
As well as the competition cars, there were car club, bike club and water craft displays, trade stalls, an evening cruise on Friday night, and all manner of food and beverage outlets. The Geelong City Council actively support the event and there are dozens of officials and support crew who ensure the event is well run. Unfortunately, on Saturday an incident involving a Porsche and several water-filled crash barriers, caused an unexpected 90-minute delay in proceedings whilst the car was removed and the damaged barriers replaced and filled with water.  At Sunday morning's Drivers' Briefing we all assembled at the finish line where it was pointed out in no uncertain terms, that once you cross the clearly marked Finish Line, you get off the loud pedal and onto the brakes. There's a 300-metre-long braking area in which you need to bring the car down to walking pace to turn left and park in the Return Assembly Area, and just to make sure everybody complied, there was a flag marshal waving a yellow flag about 100-metres into the braking zone which certainly caught your attention.
Most drivers enjoy the opportunity to showcase their vehicle in an event such as this and they try hard to achieve respectable standing quarter mile times, but because burnouts aren't permitted, getting away at the start becomes quite problematic with cold tyres and the associated lack of traction. Once underway the track curves around to the right, bringing the finishing line into view with a couple of hundred metres to go. It's all over very quickly (some more quickly than others) and then the group assemble and wait for the slow processional return back along the track to the pits.  It seems incongruous that during a full day of motorsport, about 1-minute is actual competition, but as mentioned earlier "that's the wrong end of the stick". Filling in time between runs is not a problem with so many fascinating vehicles to inspect and admire. The public can purchase a ticket which gives them access to the pit area where owners and drivers seem only too happy to answer questions or have a chat.
Once again this year, I decided to enter my Mini Marcos. Last year the car had just finished being restored and this event was its first real public outing. This year the aim was to better those elapsed quarter mile times and run the car in celebration of the 50th Anniversary of the Mini Marcos, even though mine was built in '67. I was overwhelmed by the interest shown in the little car, some people recognised it for what it was immediately, having seen photos or read about them in magazines, but because they are so rare in Australia nobody had ever seen one in the flesh before. I received so many compliments in regard to its presentation and performance that it was embarrassing. On the competition side, the car recorded consistent times varying only by 0.3 of a second over the four runs. Each run was faster than last year, the fastest being a 15.56 on the third run. I tried closing the windows to perhaps reduce drag on the final run, but it didn't work. Even though it felt faster, it was 0.07 seconds slower. All in all, it was a very enjoyable day, the weather was perfect and the Geelong people know how to run a great event.  





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Rodger Howard
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Well done Steve
Being a Geelong boy I have fond memories of this event.
As chairman of the foreshore committee my father was responsible for making it possible for this fantastic event to be run again.
A friend of mine ran his Isle of Man AJS and thoroughly enjoyed it.
We definitely will attend together in our Marcos's next year.
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Goff_Allen
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Hey Steve and Roger , Why don't you two get together with your cars and book yourselves  on a airfreight to Classic Le Mans, ???????, What a fantastic holiday you could have!!!.

Steve car still looks super.

Goff  
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Steve_Schmidt
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Quoted from Goff_Allen, posted December 1st, 2015, 15:16:38 at here
Hey Steve and Roger , Why don't you two get together with your cars and book yourselves  on a airfreight to Classic Le Mans, ???????, What a fantastic holiday you could have!!!.
Steve car still looks super.
Goff  



I wish it was that easy, Goff.  

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Rodger Howard
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Great Idea Goff.
What was your credit card number and frequent flyer number
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Goff_Allen
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Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Overland then.
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Simon Robinson
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Hmm...if you dropped out the engine and sealed up the doors, a MM should float quite easily. Then you just need a paddle and a sail!

D&H Mk IV 8313, KGV 215V (aka George) - 75,000 miles and counting since restoration in 2011.
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Steve_Schmidt
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Quoted from Simon Robinson, posted December 2nd, 2015, 10:18:39 at here
Hmm...if you dropped out the engine and sealed up the doors, a MM should float quite easily. Then you just need a paddle and a sail!



Is that how they got to South Africa?

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Is that how they got to South Africa?



Just imagine the flotilla of MMs leaving Portsmouth, heading south. The Taylorspeed Jems must have followed a similar route!

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Rodger Howard
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Except for the fact that the Taylorspeed Jems were made in a surf board shop in Adelaide south Australia.

My Irish Mini Marcos never made it out here in the day... It floated ok but kept going around in ever diminishing circles until it disappeared up its own fundamental orifice where it looked upon the car world with scorn and contempt until I saved it 9 years ago and set it on the straight and narrow here in Australia
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Quoted from Rodger Howard, posted December 4th, 2015, 08:29:04 at here
Except for the fact that the Taylorspeed Jems were made in a surf board shop in Adelaide south Australia.

My Irish Mini Marcos never made it out here in the day... It floated ok but kept going around in ever diminishing circles until it disappeared up its own fundamental orifice where it looked upon the car world with scorn and contempt until I saved it 9 years ago and set it on the straight and narrow here in Australia



Wasn't  a MK1 Jem body taken to Australia so they could make up the molds and start producing body's ????????????

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Rodger Howard
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Yes but that wasn't a Taylorspeed Jem    
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Goff_Allen
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Quoted from Rodger Howard, posted December 4th, 2015, 19:30:04 at here
Yes but that wasn't a Taylorspeed Jem    



Bang on Roger, Question for you , What happened to the Fellpoint Jem body that arrived at the surf board factory , Was it unusable once the jigs had been made or does it exist, If so was it made up into a car ??????????????
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Phil Smethurst
Posted on: December 20th, 2015, 03:03:00 Quote Report to Moderator
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Hi steve,
            I planned to attend the Geelong sprints but was unfortunately away in Vanuatu with work from early November until 4th December. I am an Ex-pat pom and will hopefully be bringing my MM Mk4 (8241 in the gallery) out to Oz finally next year. It has sat in the garage in England since 2007 but we have just relocated from cape York to Frankston in Victoria where we will hopefully settle down and buy so it would be good to get some advice about registering a modified/classic vehicle - I believe it is quite hard with the H plate/club system so I'm a bit concerned I won't be able to register it.

Where about in Victoria are you exactly?.

Cheers,
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Phil Smethurst
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I'll also be bringing my Marcos 1800GT with me when the MM comes. The 1800GT has the early plywood chassis and Marcos own design IRS. It needs completely restoring after being off the road for 26 years before I bought it in 2011 and will present it's own challenges to get into Oz with the wood but there is a guy in NSW who has imported one which he races so I'll be chatting to him too before the cars go in a container middle of the year.
 
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Steve_Schmidt
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G'day Phil, nice to hear from you.
Moving from Cape York to Frankston will be a rather dramatic change - similar I suppose, to moving from Pommyland to Cape York ! You obviously enjoy change  

I'm located in Warragul which is a rural town about 100km east of Frankston. Rodger Howard is in Melbourne's outer northern suburbs, so you'll not be too far from moral support if you need it.

Placing your cars on the Victorian Club Permit Scheme shouldn't be too much of a problem. You'll need to join a Car Club which is authorised to access the scheme for its members, provide proof that your cars are at least 25 years old and obtain Roadworthy Certificates for them from an authorised workshop.

I hope your shipping plans go smoothly, and the cars arrive Downunder unblemished.

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Hello Phil
There are a lot of people from the Uk down Frankston way. A mate who came out recently and settled down there from Ireland explained that the Peninsula epitomizes the seaside ideal for him.
I have another English mate coming up from that area this morning to do some wiring for me.
The key to getting your cars in and registered here is to show proof of previous registration in the country of origin.
You need to get a permit for each vehicle from DOTARS prior to the shipping process commencing. It costs $50 per vehicle from memory and takes a month or so.
I imported a formula junior from Japan earlier in the year and although not registered it too had its own paper chase.
My mini Marcos came from Japan as well and because it had been registered in Japan the process of roadworthy etc was easy as it was a vehicle prior to 1971 when a slew of new requirements were placed upon vehicles. They are not onerous if your mk4 is after this date but you will need to attend to them whereas Steve and I didn't.
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Phil Smethurst
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Thanks Steve/Rodger,
                               good to know a bit more about getting the cars into Oz. I have owned the MM for 23 years and had the car on the road in the UK previously in my name so that bit should be fine. I was told by a guy that works for me who has bodged a club permit (He has a turbo'd Toyota powered classic mini) that no rollcages and harnesses are allowed and mods are restricted. My car has all of these so do you think there will be issues with the mod's?. The car retains an A-series which is modified for hillclimb/sprint and has a detachable front end/relocated fuel tank and modified brakes etc are these all permitted on a club permit 'H' plate?.
I want to use it for some competition if time/money allows but also have it road registered in Australia.
Any plans to run the Junior at the classic at Phillip Island Rodger?. I've only been once a few years ago but now it is on my doorstep I hope to get along with my little boy to watch the racing in March next year.
I might come back with more questions for you both when I get a bit more into the paperwork to bring the cars out.
Cheers
Phil
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Earlier in this thread there are a couple of photos of my MM wearing its red and white Club Permit plates - you've also probably noticed it has a half cage and 6-point racing harnesses. These were inspected and allowed through when the car was inspected for roadworthiness. There are some crazy rules in the regulations that are overlooked by inspectors with commonsense. One of these is the seatbelt issue. The rules state that the belts must comply to an Australian safety standard which all original equipment belts do.  Most race harnesses do not, their standard is an FIA or other international standard which exceeds the Australian Standard but isn't recognised by the local authorities as such.
Roll cages are another contentious issue, half cages in a 2-seater like a Marcos are OK, so long as they are padded where any body contact is likely. It becomes more of a concern if you have a full cage with fixed intrusion bars. There are specific allowable designs, but any bar that is higher than your hip (such as in a MM, is unlikely to be legal - it's all to do with access to the occupants by emergency crews in the case of accident. If you can make the intrusion bar removable, you'll have a better chance of it being accepted.
The Club Permit Scheme does allow for minor period modifications. You can run a Weber DCOE with an airbox cut into the firewall on Mini for example, or fit Cooper S discs to a Mini 850. You can't however, get away with a turbo'd Toyota engine in a Mini - and I think that is a good thing. The Mini Marcos is an interesting case though, because it was a kit car there are no standard specifications. If it was built with a different fuel tank, rear disc brakes or a flip-front and registered with these, then that becomes the standard specification for that particular car, and the club that I'm involved in would have no qualms in accepting it for a Club Permit Registration, so long as it had a Roadworthy Certificate. There are currently only 2 Mini Marcoses (and one damaged shell) in Victoria and they are all early models, so you're unlikely to questioned too closely about your car's authenticity.

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Phil Smethurst
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Thanks for the detailed reply Steve. I did wonder about your cage and how it was accepted not realising it was half cage. My cage is a full cage with front/rear bolted and bolt in door bars all built to FIA spec as I was going to race it in the UK which meant either not fitting one which is ok for sprints or building it to the required specs and I thought I'd be better with more protection than less as much with road use in mind and any side impact. I had many people pull across the front of me in UK when double lanes as they couldn't see the car coming along side the row of traffic. I used to use it mid nineties every day for work as a 17 year old apprentice before it was rebuilt to current spec over many years.
I think from your brief it sounds like the car should be accepted ok with just a question over the full cage. It the worst happened and it was declared illegal I could always unbolt the front section and door bars,
Thanks very much and hope to catch up one day. 100km would be a good trip for the MM once it is here and roadworthy.
Phil
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Phil
Just be aware that the club permit scheme in Victoria is in the public eye and being wound back because people are exploiting it.
I won't have the junior at Philip Island but it will run at barbagello in October and sandown and eastern creek in November as part of the World Series.
My Marcos should be on the mornington peninsula for the Australia Day weekend along with two ex works mini's for the one and only time. Subject to  yet  another delay 😀
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