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| Andy_Derrick |
| Posted on: June 9th, 2020, 09:23:05 |
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Hey everyone. My Mk2 Jem has Leyland door handles with wind up windows but to be honest I am tempted to revert it to slide down windows and remove the door handles. My side glasses have the hole in the top for the push down knob. Everything else is a mystery to me.
I assume the window glass simply slides up and down in the channel and the lock (looks like a Marcos bonnet lock) keeps it up when locked but how does the glass stay up when it’s unlocked. My Marcos has slide down windows and there is a spring mechanism that keeps the glass up but I don’t see how this would work with the door lock on a jem.
Any pics or advice would be most welcome as the doors are the last piece in my Jem restoration.
Oh and does anyone have a Jem with a Fish Carb fitted?!!!!!!!!!
Cheers
Andy |
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| admin |
| Posted on: June 10th, 2020, 11:38:08 |
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I'll get some photos. The glass does slide up and down in the frame. You can get the flocked insert from Phoenix Supplies and other suppliers. There are knurled knobs at the top, which stop the glass disappearing into the door. Early type Mini driver side (non-locking) door locks are used. The windows are secured in the up position by WBH/Willmot Breeden panel locks.
Have a spare key in a magnetic box that you can get at if you lock yourself out. You'll soon get into the habit of always taking the keys out when you leave the car! |
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| Goff_Allen |
| Posted on: June 10th, 2020, 16:13:56 |
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| Andy , if you look on my post " input on building a Jem " My MK2 it say's which flock inserts to buy from Phoenix trim , the window and locking system in my opinion are usless , if you have glass instead of perspex then the windows will be either up or fully down because of the weight of the glass , mine are perspex and i have fitted threaded screw to hold the windows in various positions when unlocked , the locks for locking the windows only turn 90 degrees , don't buy ones that turn 180 because you have to remove the key in the locked and unlocked position , As Richard says the door locks are standard mini mk1 , If i was you if the present sytem is working OK , i would leave it as is , nobody in OZ will know the difference , but if you want originality then change them . Post some photo's of the inside of your doors . |
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| admin |
| Posted on: June 10th, 2020, 21:18:52 |
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The Taylorspeed Jems were based on the Mk.1 shell so had normal door handles. The Mk.2s has a short shaft for the door lock. It's tapped at both ends. There's a washer on the end inside the door to stop it coming out, and any suitable handle was attached inside the car.
The drawback of this arrangement is that you have to decide at the beginning of the journey whether you want the window open or closed, though I guess you could have a leather strap looping under the glass and over the door card like the ones used on vintage railway carriages but smaller. Some owners have a bit of wood with which to jam the window in the up position if you have to close it in a hurry. |
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Posted on: June 12th, 2020, 20:45:44
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| Window dropped down. |
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Posted on: June 12th, 2020, 20:46:26
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| Window up, secured by panel lock. |
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Posted on: June 12th, 2020, 20:47:56
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Door lock, passenger's side.
The door card was originally held on with concealed clips. |
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| mike brown |
| Posted on: August 16th, 2020, 17:02:37 |
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I had a knurled bolt on the inside mini Marcos style to hold the window in your chosen position whilst the lock is open. Worked well, it pinched the glass through the felt but you did need to remember to loosen it before shutting the door.
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| admin |
| Posted on: September 18th, 2020, 21:55:08 |
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I think that was standard up to Mk.V which had wind-up windows.
The problem with the Mk.IVs was that with use the threads in the aluminium frames eventually stripped.
The answer is to drill a hole through the glazing rubber and window in the up position so the bolt goes right through. That way it can secure the window without having to be done up tightly. |
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| mike brown |
| Posted on: September 21st, 2020, 16:51:56 |
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I think that was standard up to Mk.V which had wind-up windows.
The problem with the Mk.IVs was that with use the threads in the aluminium frames eventually stripped.
The answer is to drill a hole through the glazing rubber and window in the up position so the bolt goes right through. That way it can secure the window without having to be done up tightly.
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Just don't have a notch in the window on a jem unless your certain you'll never forget to leave it loose when shutting the door. As you won't get the window down to open it again. Don't ask me how I know.
Mike
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| admin |
| Posted on: September 28th, 2020, 09:33:33 |
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| I've locked myself out of the Jem in the past. I now have a spare key in a magnetic box concealed somewhere on the car. |
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