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| Tertius van Zyl |
Posted on: July 7th, 2007, 19:01:32
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Came across a guy here recently in Joburg who has a huge collection of old SA racing photographs. He pulled out the attached taken at the South African 9 hour indurance race in 1967. Drivers were Jem Marsh and Brian Raubenheimer (latter who subsequently built the SA cars under license) Apparently the car came in at about #15 after 9 hours of racing. Guy said he would scratch around for further facts that he thinks he has - like the feindish speed the car was recorded as doing on that occasion. This car is now owned by Bruce Glasby in Zimbabwe.
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| Posted on: July 7th, 2007, 20:46:05 |
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That's a great picture! I see the windscreen is still in its raised position after Le Mans. Is Bruce still in Bulawayo? I heard that he might have upped sticks.
I've put some racing results on the sports scene section at:
http://www.minimarcos.org.uk/sport/records.html |
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| Neil KilBane |
| Posted on: July 7th, 2007, 20:57:31 |
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Lovely pic Tertius, I have some pics of this car from Easter '67 at the season opener.
It's hard to tell but has the windscreen angle been fixed in your pic ??? |
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| Neil KilBane |
| Posted on: July 7th, 2007, 20:59:23 |
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Man, Richard is good, he answers the questions before you ask them.  |
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| Posted on: July 7th, 2007, 21:10:21 |
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| Neil KilBane |
| Posted on: July 8th, 2007, 00:59:33 |
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It seems to be missing it's door lights !!
Also from the results, it seems that the car should have the racing number 26 ?
There were 39 starters of which 18 were classified as finishers.
The Marcos finished 15th and covered 249 laps, and had a average speed of 113.5 kph.
The following year also saw a Mini Marcos in the Kyalami 9 Hour Race, this time driven by Nolly Limberis and Guy Tunmer, however they did not finish.
In practice for the race they lapped the circuit in 1min 50.5 sec at an average speed of 133.7 kph. |
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| Posted on: July 9th, 2007, 09:16:44 |
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Presumably te 9 hours were in daylight!
It looks like no. 27 in the newspaper photo - definitely a 7 not a 6, but the other numbers don't tie in with the results. 17 looks like a Porsche. I can't find any more details for 1968. |
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| Neil KilBane |
| Posted on: July 9th, 2007, 13:39:26 |
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| Well No.9 is the GT40 of Neilson/Hailwood, the next car ,I think is a the No.25 GSM Dart of Rossouw/Whitehead and the Porsche Carrera 6 which is either the No. 15 of Dean/VanRooyen or the No.16 of Pon/Axelsson |
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| admin |
| Posted on: July 9th, 2007, 17:12:07 |
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So what are you saying? Do the published results have the racing numbers one out? No. 10 is also a GT40.
Next question: Is that Jem Marsh next to the car - he looks tall enough to be. If so is that Chris next to him? |
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| Tertius van Zyl |
| Posted on: July 9th, 2007, 18:40:08 |
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Man you guys are good! Where did you get all those results from??
I remember travelling up from Cape Town (15 hours drive) and later from Port Elizabeth (about the same drive time) to see various 9 hour races in the 60's!
I think the race used to start at 15h00 and being summer here, it only got dark well after 19h00. Finished at midnight.
Not sure about Glasby's location. Wouldn't surprise me if he has bailed out of Zimbabwe - absolute shambles there - but I seem to think that he is still there.
At least 3 MM's that I know of in Zim, including Glasby's. One other from Joburg that belonged to Paul leRoy and when being taken up to Zim after being sold, stopped at a fuel stop somewhere in the back of beyond when someone said to the driver "I've got one of those, do you want to buy it?" Which he did and loaded it onto the same trailer! |
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| admin |
| Posted on: July 9th, 2007, 20:23:09 |
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| Just Google "Kyalami 9 hours 1967". |
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| Tertius van Zyl |
Posted on: September 27th, 2007, 18:40:17
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| These pics were sent to me yesterday. I think they could be pretty recent. Taken at Bulawayo race track of Bruce Glasby's car ex 67 Kyalami 9 Hour. Terrific resto job. Looks like windscreen angle fixed and wheelarches added. |
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| Tertius van Zyl |
Posted on: September 27th, 2007, 18:41:50
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| Intriqued by brake master cylinder set-up. Looks like a vacuum take-off from the manifold so presume a booster lives somewhere - but would only one brake circuit be boosted?? Head looks like Cooper. |
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| Tertius van Zyl |
Posted on: September 27th, 2007, 18:43:26
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| Wonder if interior fuel tank was as per 67' race day? |
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| Tertius van Zyl |
Posted on: September 27th, 2007, 18:44:49
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| Another side view |
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| paul harcourt |
| Posted on: September 27th, 2007, 20:15:08 |
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Hi Tertius, Did you get any pictures of the dashboard layout?
That is one big petrol tank! |
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| Nick Evans |
| Posted on: September 27th, 2007, 20:21:35 |
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that front end is so much prettier than the standard one, pity it didn't end up in production.
very nice looking car, in a great colour. |
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| Neil KilBane |
| Posted on: September 27th, 2007, 21:38:57 |
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I'm not mad about the colour, but it does look smart.
Interesting indicator placement, no leather bonnet catch either. |
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| Tertius van Zyl |
Posted on: September 28th, 2007, 19:14:17
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| Sorry Paul, no other interior pics but attached another pic from the rear. Thru the window it looks like it could have been the original dash layout with the sort of centre dash console, but can't be sure. Any comments on the braking system?? |
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| paul harcourt |
| Posted on: September 28th, 2007, 20:31:54 |
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Duel circuit twin master cylinders with single servo acting on a duel circuit booster cylinder I would have thought.
Maybe your right though Tertius could be servod only on the front brakes with no brake reducer on the back circuit to give the balance? |
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| Richard Porter |
| Posted on: September 28th, 2007, 22:37:05 |
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| Those pics are superb. Thanks for posting them Tertius. I agree with Nick about the front end. |
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| Allan Brown |
| Posted on: September 29th, 2007, 14:16:27 |
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It does look like the standard MK1/2 dash.
This does look a very well built car but part of me would liked to have seen it restored to how it was in 1967.
But it does look very nice. |
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| Joost van Dien |
| Posted on: September 30th, 2007, 17:55:26 |
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At the car details I saw this: "It was one of a handful of Mk. III Mini Marcoses to be built with a more streamlined front end and spats over the rear wheels"
How much of those beutiful MK3's are made? They are soo nice!
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| Neil KilBane |
| Posted on: September 30th, 2007, 20:56:58 |
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The spats have always been a bit of a mistery to me,
Here is a pic taken during the race with the Number 29 Matra MS630 of Beltoise/Servoz-Gavin chasing down the Mini Marcos with Chris Lawrence at the wheel, note that no spats are fitted at this time.
Yet in this pic which seems to have been taken later on, the spats are on.
How long into the race has the second pic have been taken ?
Given that the race starts at 16:00 and that the car retired after having compleated 13 laps in 3 hours, presumably it spent quite some time in the pits during those 3 hours.
Does it get dark early in France in mid June ? as early as 19:00 ? |
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| Roger Garland |
| Posted on: October 1st, 2007, 18:06:47 |
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Hi Neal
No, it wouldn't be dark at Le Mans by 7pm in mid-June
My understanding is that the car raced without the rear wheel covers.
Your second picture would not have been taken during the race - though may have been during practice, when they did try the wheel covers.
During the race it had various stickers (maybe to do with scrutineering?) on the front wing, just below the level of the top hinge. Clearly these are missing from that second photo - two nice photo's all the same though
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| Neil KilBane |
| Posted on: October 2nd, 2007, 00:20:08 |
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Ah, I hadn't noticed that, further investigation reveals the said stickers.
It also seems to have lost the many stickers from the top of the wing as well. |
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| Neil KilBane |
| Posted on: October 2nd, 2007, 00:37:54 |
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See what you can dig up when you go looking,
The race weekend also usually takes place the second weekend of June, with qualifying and practice taking place on the Wednesday and Thursday before the race, following an administrative scrutineering of the cars on Monday and Tuesday. Currently these sessions are held in the evening, with two separate two hour sessions held each night. A day of rest is scheduled on Friday, and includes a parade of all the drivers through the center of the town of Le Mans.
So presumably the second pic is from the Wedensday or Thursday session. 
The car was obviously modified on the Monday night after having been disallowed because of the window height.
Here it is comming on to the weighbridge, obviously on the Monday, note the unmodified windscreen and the lack of bonnet strap.
Is that Jem Marsh in the black jumper ? |
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| Andrew Tomkinson |
| Posted on: October 3rd, 2007, 12:22:15 |
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I,m pretty sure that is not Jem Marsh in the black jumper with the glasses. Having met him a couple of time I am almost certain that Jem Marsh is the tall man with the tie and jacket on behind the man in the black jumper.
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