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Marcos roll cage (currently 970 views) |
Tertius van Zyl |
Posted on: August 17th, 2004, 14:01:41 |
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Can anyone advise what a MM full roll cage looks like? Attachment points etc. Better still send a scan of a plan or a pic of one. |
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Pete Crudgington |
Posted on: August 18th, 2004, 16:43:44 |
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Will try to post some photos of mine later this week, they generally mount on the floor just infront of the front of the rear subframe mounts, on top of the rear shockabsorber mounts and on the floor by the front of the doors.
Mine also mounts by the front subrame mounts.
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Tertius van Zyl |
Posted on: August 19th, 2004, 10:32:55 |
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Thanks for info Pete Great if you can post some pics of your setup. The one that I have seen somehow bolted into that box section that goes behind the door to the rear shelf at the rear subframe front mounting points. Can't remember how it was done. Cheers Tertius |
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Pete Crudgington |
Posted on: August 23rd, 2004, 12:05:05
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Please see attached photos of my cage, should all make sense.
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Pete Crudgington |
Posted on: August 23rd, 2004, 12:05:46
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Pete Crudgington |
Posted on: August 23rd, 2004, 12:06:23
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Pete Crudgington |
Posted on: August 23rd, 2004, 12:06:53
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Pete Crudgington |
Posted on: August 23rd, 2004, 12:07:35
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Tertius van Zyl |
Posted on: August 24th, 2004, 07:41:35 |
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Brilliant! Thanks Pete. Looks like you have one going diagonally across the rear deck or is it just a cross brace for the roll bar that goes over your head? Also the one that goes across the floor behind your seat. Does it just go straight through the centre tunnel...or over it? Apprec your advice Regards Tertius |
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Pete Crudgington |
Posted on: August 24th, 2004, 12:08:52 |
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Tertius
There is a diagonal cross brace that goes from the passenger side rear shocker mount to just over my head. There is one between the rear shocker mounts. There is a bar across the floor at the rear, this goes over the top of the tunnel. There is also anothe bar across the floor at the front, just infront of the gear stick.
It's actually not an easy thing to take a photo of!
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Tertius van Zyl |
Posted on: August 24th, 2004, 14:52:21 |
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Pete Thanks for the info. Methinks your car will withstand a direct hit from a Crusader tank! Cheers T |
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Tertius van Zyl |
Posted on: August 24th, 2004, 14:58:51 |
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Pete Just a p.s. With all that protection around, what stops your seat from going through the floor in a ding situation? Is it attached to the roll cage at any point? T |
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Pete Crudgington |
Posted on: August 24th, 2004, 16:31:54 |
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Tertius.
My car is a Mk 4 so fibre glass in the floor is 6 to 10mm thick!
I fabricated the seal mounts with 1" angle, this is bolted to the floor with strips of 3mm thick steel the other side of the floor 1" wide. If this pulls through the floor there won't be much car left!
The cage is pretty substantial cos I helped Dean Robertson rebuild his car after he hit a tree head on at 60mph on a hill climb.
If the car is going to do more cuircit racing will be probably add more side impact protection with additional door bars at a higher level.
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Neil KilBane |
Posted on: September 20th, 2004, 16:59:20
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just a little fine tuning left to do.
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This cage used to be on the MMOCJ site. |
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Tertius van Zyl |
Posted on: September 21st, 2004, 08:57:57 |
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Hi Neil Thanks for this. This one is very similar to one I have subsequently seen on a MM down here in Johannesburg. |
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Ed Solheim |
Posted on: February 2nd, 2005, 21:55:36 |
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Are either of those cages FIA-approved for historic racing? |
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Herb |
Posted on: February 19th, 2005, 18:32:31 |
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admin |
Posted on: February 23rd, 2005, 10:52:24 |
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They will make you one, but at a price! Roll cages for Mini Marcos aren't available off the shelf. They would in any case be different for Mk.1-3 and Mk.4-5.
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Pete Crudgington |
Posted on: February 23rd, 2005, 13:16:27 |
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All,
The Roll Centre can supply a badly fitting cage for you to cut and fit yourself, cost about £400 +vat (basic structure of Alan Browns cage). They also quoted me £950 +vat for a design and make a fit for a 6 point FIA cage.
Safety Devices had quoted someone £2500!
Custom cages quoted me £950 +vat to design and fit a 6 point cage.
Have also spoken to Caged, they also quoted £950+vat to design make and fit a FIA six point cage. They were prepared to lower their prices if there is more than 1 to do. I am planning to get a Mk3 Mini Marcos and a Mk1 Jem done this year and so far Caged look the best bet, they are also local to me in Westbury!
All the above would require a fully stripped out car for about 2 weeks.
Hopefully if Caged do the work for me then they will be able to offer cages for Mk1-3 's as an off the shelf item, I will be discussing this with them in the comming weeks and will keep you all posted.
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