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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: March 29th, 2014, 18:31:49 |
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Hello, my name is cristian and I live in galicia (spain), I like very much the mini, I have a mini and a few days ago buy mini frames to a few kilometres of my house, it has a lot of work to restore it, but I want to do the possible better thing. They kown information of my mini marcos ( photos etc etc) ? I need from your help!!!! thanks
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: March 29th, 2014, 18:32:15 |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: March 29th, 2014, 18:36:50 |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: March 29th, 2014, 18:40:02 |
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Do I need your help to restore it of origin, where I can buy a few doors? And an original dashboard? Thank you  |
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| mike brown |
| Posted on: March 29th, 2014, 19:54:08 |
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That car was well known in the club about 15 years ago the doors are non standard. Are you planning to fit normal doors if so you have a lot of work to do but I do have door moulds so can help there. If you want to keep the gullwing doors they need to be made from scratch (assuming you don't have any doors at the moment).
As for the dash looking at the photos I think you will find the original dash is still under the current dash mind it may have a lot of holes and cut outs in it.
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: March 29th, 2014, 23:29:59 |
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Hello mike, thanks for answering to my message, I want to put the original doors, you have your doors to the sale? The doors gullwing estan put in the car, but I do not want them. In 15 days I am going to dismantle complete and like that everything already I see as this one the car. Can you obtain photographies, magazines or some information of the car??
Do You Know the one who is the owner in uk? Thank you |
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| mike brown |
| Posted on: March 29th, 2014, 23:46:41 |
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I will check the condition of the moulds I have (stored at my parents) but yes I can make them to order.
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: March 30th, 2014, 00:43:29 |
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| Neil KilBane |
| Posted on: March 30th, 2014, 18:57:12 |
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| admin |
| Posted on: March 30th, 2014, 20:03:20 |
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| That reminds me I must update its page. |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: March 30th, 2014, 22:02:40 |
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| Have you some information of the previous owner ,mike, (e-mail, facebook), and some photography of the car before being gullwing? Thank you |
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| Stuart |
| Posted on: March 31st, 2014, 08:42:20 |
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I looked on Facebook for Mike but couldn't see him on there. If my memory is correct he lived in Crewe in Cheshire.
It looks like you have quite a task ahead changing it back to standard Cristian, good luck. |
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| mike brown |
| Posted on: March 31st, 2014, 09:31:39 |
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Richard (admin) or roger garland would probably know the owner that did the gullwing I only met him twice a long time ago can't even remember his name.
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: March 31st, 2014, 14:33:41 |
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| I have a lot of work, but with your help and your advice, I think I can make a very nice mini marcos |
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Posted on: April 2nd, 2014, 09:39:16
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Do I need your help to restore it of origin, where I can buy a few doors? And an original dashboard? Thank you
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One possible solution - I have two Mk.2 Jem doors. The shape is virtually the same on the inside but the top front corner is different and of course the window frames are different. However you could modify them or fit polycarbonate windows with sliding ventilators.
This photo shows the main difference - Marcos in front, Jem behind. |
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Posted on: April 2nd, 2014, 09:41:31
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| Insides of doors, Jem left. |
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Posted on: April 2nd, 2014, 09:46:46
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| From above. Note the frame on the Jem goes into the slot; on the Marcos it just screws onto the face. The Jem has no external handles so it has a panel lock to secure the drop light from outside. The white door is off my TMJ. The spare ones are painted black and have hinges. |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: April 2nd, 2014, 14:20:59 |
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| good afternoon, thank you very much for the info, I first want to disassemble and remove the doors you have now, and if you keep looking at the frames of the original door, and then with quiet time and try to get some original doors or a mold to manufacture, |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: April 2nd, 2014, 14:22:18 |
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| can someone explain to me the difference between a mini frames mk1, 2 and 3 of a mini frames mk4?, external dimensions, inside dimensions? thanks |
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| admin |
| Posted on: April 2nd, 2014, 14:42:05 |
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| I think the window frames, where fitted, are the same dimensions for all marks of Mini Marcos. The main difference is that the Marcos ones were usually polished or chromed brass whereas the D&H ones were formed of aluminium channel painted black. I haven't got the dimensions to hand but I have obtained a new set of Lexan door windows for a Mk.IV from ACW Motorsport Plastics so they may have patterns. If not I can make some. |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: April 2nd, 2014, 15:29:31 |
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| thanks for your help, I've asked on this page (http://www.rory.uk.com/) and doors have a new mini mk5 frames? are the same of a MK4? , Have some up to internal and external dimensions of the body of the mini marcos mk4? thanks |
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| mike brown |
| Posted on: April 2nd, 2014, 16:31:06 |
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Mk4 and mk5/6 doors are the same except for the catches mk4 uses mk1/2 mini catches mk5 on uses later mini catches. I'm fairly sure mk3 and 4 doors are the same aswell but that needs confirming. I have moulds for mk4 doors but I think I changed the catch set up as I made them for a mk5. I can make some for £250 a pair plus postage but I can't help with the metal frames.
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| Grant Wilson |
| Posted on: April 2nd, 2014, 18:03:15 |
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Hi,
On the subject of door frames.....mine are goosed..can anyone help ???
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: April 2nd, 2014, 18:57:52 |
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| Mike brown Are the doors that you can make the same to the doors mk4 original??, to put the windows of Plexiglas is it necessary to have the frame of the door? Thank you |
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| mike brown |
| Posted on: April 2nd, 2014, 21:13:13 |
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Yes the moulds were take from mk4 doors though the catch area may require work as I can't remember what I did there as the doors I made were to take later mini catches.
It is possible to fit frameless perspex windows we have fitted them on my brothers (allan brown) mk3 race mini Marcos though possibly not the best thing for a road car.
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: April 3rd, 2014, 15:48:22 |
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| ok thank you very much, within 15 days I will find the mini marcos to my house, I'll dismantle whole and looked at him and then the doors, thanks |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: April 3rd, 2014, 15:49:05 |
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| fantastic race mini marcos mike |
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| Martin_Loram |
| Posted on: April 4th, 2014, 06:37:11 |
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| Hi mike as anyone got a mould to make a one piece re- moveable front end as per mk 6 or trans xl shape and what sort of money are we looking at many thanks Martin |
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| mike brown |
| Posted on: April 4th, 2014, 09:18:53 |
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My brother has the mould for his race car above I has no headlight recess and the wheel arches are wrong but I do have some bits I can put in the mould that return it to standard ish. Pm me for price etc.
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| Craig Smith |
| Posted on: April 10th, 2014, 13:41:17 |
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Cristian,
Your car was converted to Gullwing by Mike Crawley, from Shavington in Crewe.. I've not seen him for a few years now, so not sure if he still lives there.
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: April 10th, 2014, 15:01:30 |
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| Thank you for the information, do you know if it has facebook or e-mail?, I am looking for photographies, or any information of my mini marcos, someone has some graces? |
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| Stuart |
| Posted on: April 10th, 2014, 19:37:57 |
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Craig that number is Mike's Mum's. I've spoken to his Mum and she has asked if you could remove her details from the thread please.
I've got Mike's number and have left a message, I'll update the thread when I hear back from him. |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: April 10th, 2014, 23:01:06 |
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| Thank you very much for your help, stuart, can you ask mike email or facebook, my English is not very good at talking on the phone thanks |
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| Craig Smith |
| Posted on: April 11th, 2014, 16:56:18 |
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[quote by=maddax link=Blah.pl?b=MM,m=1396117909,s=31 date=1397158677] ....she has asked if you could remove her details from the thread please.
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| Stuart |
| Posted on: April 11th, 2014, 19:06:38 |
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Cheers Craig, She was quite concerned when I said I got her number on the internet.
Mike hasn't been in touch yet. I did mention the forum in the message I left. |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: April 11th, 2014, 19:15:49 |
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| Thank you very much for your help, I want to write to mike for if information of the history has of my mini marcos jeje |
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| Stuart |
| Posted on: April 12th, 2014, 18:28:58 |
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I've rung again and it turns out we have the wrong Mike Cawley from Crewe according to his partner who I just spoke to!
Back round to you Craig for any ideas. Also just realised you found us a Crawley rather than Cawley. |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: April 13th, 2014, 17:01:04 |
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The information I have is:
MICHAEL DAVID CAWLEY
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| Stuart |
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I've seen his name and partners name on a phone directory site, but you have to pay to get more information.
I've also tried the two listed Consterdines in the BT phone book looking for Dawn with no luck. |
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| Posted on: April 14th, 2014, 18:05:39 |
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| Mike is still registered on the forum but hasn't posted since 2006. His email address could still be valid. |
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| Richard Porter |
| Posted on: April 14th, 2014, 18:10:29 |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: April 14th, 2014, 19:51:55 |
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| thanks for the information, within 5 days and I have the mini marcos in my house and start to remove the mini marcos for future restoration |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: April 23rd, 2014, 18:33:30 |
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Hi all, I have the mini marcos in my house and I remove some parts, I put some pictures of the transport and her new home
and so for now this mini marcos |
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| mike brown |
| Posted on: April 23rd, 2014, 20:46:00 |
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Glad to see you have it home. In some of the pictures I can see lines where the doors would be so it looks like the doors have been fixed in place then modified. This mean you maybe able to remove them and rebuild what you have. If possible can you post some pictures of the inside of the door area as we maybe able to see how they were attached.
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: April 25th, 2014, 15:59:11 |
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| I think it's better to put a new door, but first I want to disassemble the car and go buying new parts, someone has got some data mike cawley ? THANKS |
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| margaret |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
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I put more pictures of this restoration as mini marcos 8410
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: October 30th, 2014, 16:08:47 |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: October 30th, 2014, 16:16:02 |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: October 30th, 2014, 16:20:14 |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: October 30th, 2014, 16:23:24 |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: October 30th, 2014, 16:27:41 |
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| continued with the restoration, any advice? thank you |
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| mike brown |
| Posted on: October 30th, 2014, 20:18:12 |
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Looks to me like your doing a great job. As you seem to be capable with fibreglass you could probably reinstate the roof by bending some sheet to shape to form a temporary mould. Laminate the shape trim then form another temporary mould to form the recess for the door frame. Once your happy grind back the joint line outside and laminate over. Flat that back flush fill and fair as necessary.
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: October 30th, 2014, 22:15:13 |
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| Thank you very much for your advice , I think I have more work to make the roof of the car , I 'll buy again rory . |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: November 23rd, 2014, 11:51:56 |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: November 23rd, 2014, 11:57:37 |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: November 23rd, 2014, 12:09:50 |
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| mike brown |
| Posted on: November 23rd, 2014, 17:53:53 |
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looking really good your making great progress. By the looks of your photos it's the front panel you need not the bonnet.
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| Heinrich_Lux |
| Posted on: November 23rd, 2014, 23:10:39 |
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| What about that massive gap between the front panel and the subframe? On mine (MK3) its not existent and even that tight that the subframe wont drop out without any bolts. That is engine still in place... |
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| mike brown |
| Posted on: November 24th, 2014, 17:08:25 |
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I don't think it's as bad as it looks. The upright look to of been cut out along with part of the valence probably to allow it to be flip fronted in the past I suspect once this is reinstated the gap will be minimal.
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: November 24th, 2014, 20:09:40 |
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In the past it was front flip , the next step is to put that part number and serial car front , where air enters to cool the engine
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: November 24th, 2014, 20:12:03 |
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| Someone has measures to make that piece ?? Length and height of this piece engine cover thanks |
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| Joost van Dien |
| Posted on: November 25th, 2014, 11:04:30 |
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The gap is I think as Mike says, for the flip front brace. As I understand it Cristian wants to have the front end as original as possible. It looks like the fiberglass from the subframe up the connecting points is cut away. Normally there is a thinker lip were the subframes rest against the fiberglass.
A quick fix would be to have a spacer in the gap, otherwise you have to reconstruct the fiberglass.
Regards, Joost
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
| Posted on: November 27th, 2014, 20:38:31 |
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| Hello, we will rebuild fiberglass , can you say me far to the front entrance of the car? Thank you |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
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My old wheels in 6x10. Can you give me your opinion?
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| I'm going to ask the price of the nuts and wheel centers |
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Continued work
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Because the fiber had cracks below gel coat
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| is necessary to give the gel coat when is finished fiber? Thanks |
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| mike brown |
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No gelcoat is mainly cosmetic and uv protection but high build primer and paint will do the same job. Looking good by the way but I don't envy the sanding job to get it looking smooth again.
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| I prefer sanding, priming and painting and not put gel coat , but there is still a lot of work on the body |
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Believe me fairing in primer/filler is a lot easier than doing it with gelcoat. Gelcoat is harder wearing than paint but most cars end up filled and painted anyway so as long as you remove or glass over all the cracks you'll have no problems if you don't the cracks will show through the filler/paint quicker than they would gelcoat.
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
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| that primer for the body ? and model paint ? Thanks |
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| mike brown |
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Fill the worst, sand. Then high build primer, sand. Repeat till your happy then paint. I like two pack (2k) but this is not very nice to you or your lungs you will need air fed hood, extraction etc.
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| Cristian Sammartin Castro |
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